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Worst copying ever? (warning: image heavy)

Postby BlueFantasy » Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:24 pm

I've been thinking about making this post for a while, but LBD_Nytetrayn's post made me go ahead and do it. XP Anyway, feel free to dig up your issue 92 and read along. This is going to be just a few examples of the rampant and poor copying in this issue. It was pencilled by Micheal Higgins, who I haven't seen since. Maybe he was fired over it? I'm wondering how it even passed. Maybe there was a deadline issue involved...

We'll start with page 2 of issue 92. Who doesn't recognize Fry's Eggman from his debut issue? Seen here on page 10 of issue 76, the copy, and then the original.
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Page 3 of 92 has several copies, from multiple issues. First is page 7 of 85, then page 5 of 85, page 6 of 77, and finally page 3 of 76.
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Next is page 5 of 92, where we can easily see Fry's Mina from page 5 of issue 89, and also Steven Butler's Elias from page 4 of 73. Geoffrey also reminds me of Manny Galan's style, though I couldn't find the reference, and Rotor seems to be copied from an early episode of SatAM perhaps.
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Page 7 of 92. I don't have to tell you where this comes from. It looks horrible as well... and totally out of place.
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On page 11 of 92 is an easily recognizeable Frank Storm-styled Monkey Khan, taken straight from his father's image in issue 86.
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The final insult comes on page 14 of 92. If I have to explain this one, you should be beaten with a hose. :P The second image is from page 7 of issue 89.
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So, I don't know how I missed this when I first got the issue years ago. I just thought it was bad art. It wasn't until I went back through a couple of months ago that I realized what was going on. I just... I really hope we never see something so bad again. The characters don't even look natural! There's more than just what I've shown; take a look for yourself. If like, Ian could find out what happened to this guy, it might satisfy my curiosity. XD
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Postby Guest » Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:40 pm

I beleive Micheal Higgins used to be an inker for the comic as well. This was his debut as a "penciller". The last issue I recall him working on was issue 141, but I don't remember if he's inked any stories after that.
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Postby Adamis » Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:09 pm

Spaz copied things too you know, and nobody's complaining.

Compare this:

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and Knuckles (on the right): [img=http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2333/073vp5.th.jpg]

Tails (obvious): [img=http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/328/167ns1.th.jpg]
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Postby Nel » Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:05 pm

Wow, that Sally talking to Alicia/Elias one is just terrible.

And Adamis, all I'm getting from those links is Shadow flipping me the finger.
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Postby Adamis » Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:14 pm

Sorry, I've hosted them on Imageshack now.
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Postby JaxBombin' » Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:35 pm

:(hearty laughter): WOW, check Sonic #43 after Naugus breaks the wall open, and peep Sally, then go BACK to your Mecha Madness comic and or Sonic #39.
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Postby Tigsie » Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:07 pm

I remember that issue with Higgins. Wasn't that the one he did with ninja sonic or whatever? I prefer not to remember the art in those issues... XD

I don't think I would count Spaz as blatant copying so much as it was a reference. There are only so many ways you can draw a fox or echidna. Not to mention in Sonic X they are limited to drawing it exactly how they are suppose to look in the cartoon. I can see the similarities, but if it was copied it was pulled off pretty darn well.
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Postby LBD_Nytetrayn » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:21 pm

Yeah, if Spaz had any infringement here, it was pretty mild by comparison to what we've seen here...

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Postby apprentice manta » Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:25 am

I found the source of the Geofffey trace. Pages 4 and 5 of STH #50. (Or SS6, didn't check page order there) Original artist t'was Mike Gallagher.
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Pretty tacky if y'ask me. >_<
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Postby JaxBombin' » Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:42 pm

^^ :(hearty laughter): :(hearty laughter): WOWWWWW

Manny Galan absolutely beautified that issue by the way, along with Spaz.
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Postby Sonic922 » Sun Mar 11, 2007 8:05 pm

Adamis wrote:Spaz copied things too you know, and nobody's complaining.

Compare this:

http://www.bumbleking.com/sonic/sx16/sx16_0.jpg
and Knuckles (on the right): [img=http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2333/073vp5.th.jpg]

Tails (obvious): [img=http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/328/167ns1.th.jpg]

Where are those pictures from?
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Postby BlueFantasy » Sun Mar 11, 2007 8:28 pm

I didn't even go back far enough to find the Geoffrey stuff. =/ As for Spaz, I'd say it was reference more than anything else, since he HAS to stick to the Sonic X style.

It's one thing to use something as reference, but in most of the pictures, the placement isn't even right. It's like a cut-and-paste smorgasbord (sp?). I'm glad to see this guy hasn't come back.
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Postby Adamis » Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:51 pm

Sonic922 wrote:
Adamis wrote:Spaz copied things too you know, and nobody's complaining.

Compare this:

http://www.bumbleking.com/sonic/sx16/sx16_0.jpg
and Knuckles (on the right): [img=http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2333/073vp5.th.jpg]

Tails (obvious): [img=http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/328/167ns1.th.jpg]

Where are those pictures from?


Model sheets from Sonic X.

I bought 200 of them and about 400 of Sonic Underground.
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Postby JSoup » Thu May 27, 2010 2:43 am

I just found this topic through Mobius Encyclopedia. This is amazing, I never noticed any of this. I wonder if there are any other examples.
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Postby The KKM » Thu May 27, 2010 3:14 am

I'll take this opportunity to show two villains from 90ies anime Rescue Kids. Their names are Omega and Epsilon, and Rescua Kids was animated by TMS.

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