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Sonic 2006 Plot explained by constant time-travel.

Postby The KKM » Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:03 am

So yeah, this is a post by DigitalDuck in Sonic Retro, in which he tries to explain Sonic 2006. It contains some fan-writing/assumptions, but overall I thin it's solid and makes sense.

DigitalDuck wrote:Writeup complete. *** WARNING - VERY, VERY, VERY LONG POST ***

First things first, let me explain how I'm analysing the story.

There are several ways of breaking apart time travel chronology; I've chosen timeline reconstruction, which allows you not only to see how a time loop can be stable, but also how it can be formed in the first place. The idea is to start with the “original timeline”, the one that “happened” before any time travel took place, and then follow each timeline as it unravels from there.
Of course, there'd actually be an infinite number of loops before it becomes fully stable, as minute differences in particles happen each time. However, we're only interested in the events here.

Notes:
I'm assuming three time “periods” – 1996, 2006, and 2206. It should be obvious which is applicable to any particular scene.
Only time travel backwards is of interest – time travel forwards is no different than just disappearing for a while.
I'm treating each portal as one “unit” – I.e. everything that enters the portal travels that timeline. It doesn't make any real difference, but it greatly simplifies the writing.
Once backwards time travel has occurred, there is no need to continue the current timeline – it'll be changed by the time travel. Only once a stable time loop is formed should the current timeline be continued.
Under standard alternate universe theory, ALL of these timelines happen. Under predestination/time loop theory, only the final timelime happens. Sonic '06 shows the final timeline.

So, here we go:

TIMELIME 1

1996
Solaris is split by scientists.
Elise's father seals Mephiles in the Scepter of Darkness, and Iblis in Elise using the White Chaos Emerald. – Don't forget, this is the original timeline. Shadow and Silver haven't gone back in time yet. While it may not seem he was up to the task, the Duke seems to be absolutely determined to do whatever it takes to stop Iblis and Mephiles from escaping.

2006
Eggman travels to Soleanna; Sonic follows.
Rouge retrieves the Scepter of Darkness.
After a kerfuffle, the Scepter of Darkness is dropped.
Mephiles is reborn from Shadow's shadow.
Mephiles travels to the future alone. – As Shadow didn't seal Mephiles in the past, Mephiles has no idea who Shadow is, and has no need to exact his revenge on him.
Shadow collects the Red Chaos Emerald. – It's a bit of a stretch, but if Shadow doesn't get thrown about time by Mephiles, he may, in his travels, stumble across the Red Chaos Emerald. It's the only reason I can think of for it being otherwise “freaking nowhere”, and it's the only way it works later on in the analysis. It's improbable, but certainly not infeasible, so I'm sticking with it.
Eggman kidnaps Elise.
Sonic gives Eggman the Blue Chaos Emerald.
Eggman sends Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles to the future.
Elise, eventually realising Sonic isn't returning, cries and releases Iblis. – And even if it isn't over Sonic, she's bound to start crying sometime in her life.
Iblis does what large fiery demigods do.

2206
Mephiles arrives.
Mephiles collects the Violet Chaos Emerald.
Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles arrive.
Mephiles talks to Silver and Blaze. – More firepower, or just dramatic licence? You decide.
Mephiles travels to the past with Silver and Blaze.

TIMELINE 1A

2006
Silver arrives. Blaze and Mephiles arrive elsewhere.
Eggman travels to Soleanna; Sonic follows.
Rouge retrieves the Scepter of Darkness.
After a kerfuffle, the Scepter of Darkness is dropped.
Mephiles is reborn from Shadow's shadow.
Mephiles travels to the future alone.
Shadow collects the Red Chaos Emerald.
Eggman kidnaps Elise.
Sonic fights Silver.
Sonic gives Eggman the Blue Chaos Emerald.
Eggman sends Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles to the future.
Silver and Blaze collect the Blue Chaos Emerald from Eggman's Base.
Shadow fights Silver.
Shadow and Silver travel to the past using Shadow's Red and Silver's Blue. – This is why Shadow needs the Red Chaos Emerald. It seems to be established that it takes two Chaos Emeralds to create a time portal.

TIMELINE 2

1996
Shadow and Silver arrive.
Solaris is split by scientists.
Shadow seals Mephiles in the Scepter of Darkness.
Silver helps Elise's father seal Iblis in Elise using the White Chaos Emerald.
Shadow and Silver travel to the future using Shadow's Red and Silver's Blue, leaving Scepter of Darkness and Blue Chaos Emerald behind.

2006
Eggman travels to Soleanna; Sonic follows.
Rouge retrieves the Scepter of Darkness.
After a kerfuffle, the Scepter of Darkness is dropped.
Mephiles is reborn from Shadow's shadow.
Mephiles travels to the future with Shadow and Rouge. – Now Mephiles recognises Shadow, as he was the one that sealed him, not Duke.
Eggman kidnaps Elise.
Sonic gives Eggman the Blue Chaos Emerald.
Eggman sends Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles to the future.
Shadow and Silver arrive. – This will get more confusing as in later timelines they come back from the past they never go to.
Elise, eventually realising Sonic isn't returning, cries and releases Iblis.
Iblis does what large fiery demigods do.

2206
Shadow and Rouge arrive. Mephiles arrives elsewhere.
Mephiles collects the Violet Chaos Emerald.
Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles arrive.
Mephiles talks to Silver and Blaze.
Mephiles travels to the past with Silver and Blaze.

TIMELINE 2A

2006
Silver arrives. Blaze and Mephiles arrive elsewhere.
Eggman travels to Soleanna; Sonic follows.
Rouge retrieves the Scepter of Darkness.
After a kerfuffle, the Scepter of Darkness is dropped.
Mephiles is reborn from Shadow's shadow.
Mephiles travels to the future with Shadow and Rouge.
Eggman kidnaps Elise.
Sonic fights Silver.
Sonic gives Eggman the Blue Chaos Emerald.
Eggman sends Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles to the future.
Silver and Blaze collect the Blue Chaos Emerald from Eggman's Base.
Shadow and Silver arrive. – Yes, now there are two Silvers. But don't worry, that's perfectly normal in a still-forming time loop.
Elise, eventually realising Sonic isn't returning, cries and releases Iblis.
Iblis does what large fiery demigods do.

2206
Shadow and Rouge arrive, Mephiles arrives elsewhere.
Mephiles collects the Violet Chaos Emerald.
Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles arrive.
Mephiles talks to Silver and Blaze.
Mephiles travels to the past with Silver and Blaze.
--- Note that at this point, Timeline 2A repeats itself continuously. Thus, I consider it a Stable Time Loop and continue with the analysis.
Shadow and Rouge collect the Green Chaos Emerald.
Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles collect the Cyan Chaos Emerald.
Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and Rouge travel to the past using Sonic's Cyan and Shadow's Green.

TIMELINE 2B

2006
...
Sonic gives Eggman the Blue Chaos Emerald.
Eggman sends Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles to the future.
Silver and Blaze collect the Blue Chaos Emerald from Eggman's Base.
Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles arrive.
Rouge arrives.
Rouge gives Omega the Green Chaos Emerald. – Rouge seems fairly smart to me; I'm sure she could work out, without seeing Omega in the future, that you can just tell a robot to hold on to something and then go to sleep for fifty years.
Sonic rescues Elise.
Silver attacks Sonic.
Without Shadow to save him, Sonic is killed. – Because Shadow is “still” in the future.
Elise cries and releases Iblis.
Iblis does what large fiery demigods do.
Shadow and Silver arrive. – Nice timing. Next time you return from the past you never went to, make sure you do it before the hero gets killed.

2206
Shadow and Rouge arrive, Mephiles arrives elsewhere.
Mephiles collects the Violet Chaos Emerald.
Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles arrive.
Mephiles talks to Silver and Blaze.
Mephiles travels to the past with Silver and Blaze. --> 2A
Shadow and Rouge find Omega on standby.
Shadow and Rouge collect the Green Chaos Emerald.
Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles collect the Cyan Chaos Emerald.
Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and Rouge travel to the past using Sonic's Cyan and Shadow's Green. --> 2B
Shadow fights Crrystal Meph.
Omega gives Shadow the Green Chaos Emerald.
Omega fights Crystal Meph.
Crystal Meph flees to the past, Shadow and Omega follow.

TIMELINE 2C

2006
...
Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles arrive.
Rouge arrives.
Rouge gives Omega the Green Chaos emerald.
Shadow and Omega arrive. Mephiles arrives elsewhere.
Sonic rescues Elise.
Silver attacks Sonic.
Shadow saves Sonic.
Eggman kidnaps Elise.
Shadow fights Silver.
Shadow and Silver travel to the past using Shadow's Green and Silver's Blue.

TIMELINE 3

1996
Shadow and Silver arrive.
Solaris is split by scientists.
Shadow seals Mephiles in the Scepter of Darkness.
Silver helps Elise's father seal Iblis in Elise using the White Chaos Emerald.
Shadow and Silver travel to the future using Shadow's Green and Silver's Blue, leaving Scepter of Darkness and Blue Chaos Emerald behind. – And after time has run its course, the once-necessary Red Chaos Emerald is now nowhere at all.

2006
Eggman travels to Soleanna; Sonic follows.
Rouge retrieves the Scepter of Darkness.
After a kerfuffle, the Scepter of Darkness is dropped.
Mephiles is reborn from Shadow's shadow.
Mephiles travels to the future with Shadow and Rouge.
Eggman kidnaps Elise.
Sonic gives Eggman the Blue Chaos Emerald.
Eggman sends Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles to the future.
Shadow and Silver arrive.
Elise, eventually realising Sonic isn't returning, cries and releases Iblis.
Iblis does what large fiery demigods do.

2206
Shadow and Rouge arrive. Mephiles arrives elsewhere.
Mephiles collects the Violet Chaos Emerald.
Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles arrive.
Mephiles talks to Silver and Blaze.
Mephiles travels to the past with Silver and Blaze.
--- Timelines 3A-3C repeat here as 2A-2C did…

TIMELINE 3C

2006
...
Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles arrive.
Rouge arrives.
Rouge gives Omega the Green Chaos emerald.
Shadow and Omega arrive.
Sonic rescues Elise.
Silver attacks Sonic.
Shadow saves Sonic.
Eggman kidnaps Elise.
Shadow fights Silver.
Shadow and Silver travel to the past using Shadow's Green and Silver's Blue. --> 3
Shadow and Silver arrive.
Sonic and Silver don't make it to the Egg Carrier on time.
Sonic travels to the past using Sonic's Cyan and Silver's White.

TIMELINE 3D (FINAL)

1996
Shadow and Silver arrive.
Solaris is split by scientists.
Shadow seals Mephiles in the Scepter of Darkness.
Silver helps Elise's father seal Iblis in Elise using the White Chaos Emerald.
Shadow and Silver travel to the future using Shadow's Green and Silver's Blue, leaving Scepter of Darkness and Blue Chaos Emerald behind.

2006
Silver arrives. Blaze and Mephiles arrive elsewhere.
Eggman travels to Soleanna; Sonic follows.
Rouge retrieves the Scepter of Darkness.
After a kerfuffle, the Scepter of Darkness is dropped.
Mephiles is reborn from Shadow's shadow.
Mephiles travels to the future with Shadow and Rouge.
Eggman kidnaps Elise.
Sonic fights Silver.
Sonic gives Eggman the Blue Chaos Emerald.
Eggman sends Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles to the future.
Silver and Blaze collect the Blue Chaos Emerald from Eggman's Base.
Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles arrive.
Rouge arrives.
Rouge gives Omega the Green Chaos Emerald.
Sonic rescues Elise.
Silver attacks Sonic.
Shadow saves Sonic.
Eggman kidnaps Elise.
Shadow fights Silver.
Shadow and Silver travel to the past using Shadow's Green and Silver's Blue. --> 3
Sonic[3C] arrives.
Shadow and Silver arrive.
Sonic[3C] rescues Elise from the Egg Carrier.
Sonic and Silver don't make it to the Egg Carrier on time.
Sonic travels to the past using Sonic's Cyan and Silver's White. --> 3D
Silver and Blaze travel to the future through the same portal.
Crystal Meph collects Yellow Chaos Emerald.
Shadow fights Crstal Meph II.
Crystal Meph steals Shadow's Green Chaos Emerald during the fight.
(Anything that happens past this point is part of the last story, which I've previously mentioned messes everything up.)

2206
Shadow and Rouge arrive, Mephiles arrives elsewhere.
Mephiles collects the Violet Chaos Emerald.
Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles arrive.
Mephiles talks to Silver and Blaze.
Mephiles travels to the past with Silver and Blaze. --> 3A
Shadow and Rouge find Omega on standby.
Shadow and Rouge collect the Green Chaos Emerald.
Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles collect the Cyan Chaos Emerald.
Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and Rouge travel to the past using Sonic's Cyan and Shadow's Green. --> 3B
Shadow fights Crrystal Meph.
Omega gives Shadow the Green Chaos Emerald.
Omega fights Crystal Meph.
Crystal Meph flees to the past, Shadow and Omega follow. --> 3C
Silver and Blaze arrive.
Silver fights Iblis.
Blaze seals Iblis within her and sends herself to another dimension using the Cyan and White Chaos Emeralds.

And there you have it. Anything you feel needs expanding upon, feel free to let me know.

EDIT: >2000 words. That's it, my next fifty posts are all one-liners about breasts.

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Re: Sonic 2006 Plot explained by constant time-travel.

Postby MegaHayzer » Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:59 am

Didn't Ian already do something like this?

And isn't it stickied?
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Re: Sonic 2006 Plot explained by constant time-travel.

Postby The KKM » Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:14 am

Ian made a thread with his various explainations of various games. This explaination, however, is different and much more detailed, and even relates to the time-travel arcs going on around now,
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Re: Sonic 2006 Plot explained by constant time-travel.

Postby theJcfreak » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:48 am

Is it just me or could that explanation use some explaining...?
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Re: Sonic 2006 Plot explained by constant time-travel.

Postby Kaosu Reido » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:54 am

Why does it even need explaining? One, the story retconned itself. Two, it was an amazingly simple time travel story. Bad thing happens, go back in time to fix it, continue doing so until bad things don't happen. Simple.
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Re: Sonic 2006 Plot explained by constant time-travel.

Postby SonicBlueRanger » Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:42 am

Thank's for breaking the Timey-Wimey ball.

Problem with this is that Silver is fro 200 years in the future not 50.
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Re: Sonic 2006 Plot explained by constant time-travel.

Postby The KKM » Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:49 am

He was called on that later, I thought he had edited it. Misremembered it.
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Re: Sonic 2006 Plot explained by constant time-travel.

Postby Chris000 » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:43 am

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Re: Sonic 2006 Plot explained by constant time-travel.

Postby Vampfox » Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:38 pm

So why did Mephiles have to go through all this crap to fuse with Iblis, when there's a Iblis in Silver's timeline?
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Re: Sonic 2006 Plot explained by constant time-travel.

Postby Penguin God » Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:41 pm

Maybe the Iblis in Silver's timeframe was already fused with him in the past, and he had to go through all the time travel muckduggery because he had already done so. It'd be really inconvenient stable time loop, that ended up breaking in the end.
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Re: Sonic 2006 Plot explained by constant time-travel.

Postby SonicBlueRanger » Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:21 pm

Darkfox wrote:So why did Mephiles have to go through all this crap to fuse with Iblis, when there's a Iblis in Silver's timeline?


Because...um...time travel? *Shrugs*
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Re: Sonic 2006 Plot explained by constant time-travel.

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Re: Sonic 2006 Plot explained by constant time-travel.

Postby Dub » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:55 pm

Darkfox wrote:So why did Mephiles have to go through all this crap to fuse with Iblis, when there's a Iblis in Silver's timeline?


Because he's the Dark Demigod of Time and Space and he doesn't really have anything better to do beyond making people's lives miserable for his own fun and amusement. :)
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Re: Sonic 2006 Plot explained by constant time-travel.

Postby The KKM » Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:23 am

Darkfox wrote:So why did Mephiles have to go through all this crap to fuse with Iblis, when there's a Iblis in Silver's timeline?


It isn't explained why. The two theories DigitalDuck offers are either "Iblis in the future was released from Elise's death, not crying, and that means Mephiles can't use it for some reason" or "in the future Iblis is too powerful and chaotic, Mephiles must fuse with him just as he is released."
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Re: Sonic 2006 Plot explained by constant time-travel.

Postby Mavrickindigo » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:19 am

Kaosu Reido wrote:Why does it even need explaining? One, the story retconned itself. Two, it was an amazingly simple time travel story. Bad thing happens, go back in time to fix it, continue doing so until bad things don't happen. Simple.

It was a simple story, yes, but one that did not handle Time Travel with the maturity and intelligence needed to make a time Travel story. You have to be very careful when you make a time travel story, because people are bound to look into the timelines to find inconsistencies and similar problems in the timelines. Because Sonic 06 seemed to have so many timelines, obviously SEGA had no idea what it was doing when it wrote the story for this thing.
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